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Medicare Hospital Provider Advisory Group
January 15, 2003
Arkansas Hospital Association
419 Natural Resources Drive
Little Rock, AR 72205
Attendees:
Representatives from:
Arkansas Hospital Association; Medical Park Hospital Hope; North
Arkansas Regional Medical Center; St. Bernard's Healthcare; St. Vincent
North Rehab Hospital; Chambers Memorial Hospital; St. Vincent Infirmary
Medical Center
Arkansas Blue Cross and Blue Shield Staff
Amanda Crosby, Manager, Provider Audit and
Reimbursement
Theresa Milligan, Director, Medicare Administrative Support
Linda Lewis, Supervisor, Medicare Part A Claims and Customer Service
Charlotte Garlington, Medicare Medical Review, Part A
Bobbye Garner, Director, Medicare Services
Kelley Vaughan, EDI
Kay Werner, Manager, MSP Operations
Sidney Hayes, M.D., CMD
Forrest Wolfe, Manager, Medicare Claims
Meeting called to order at 10.35 am.
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Arkansas Hospital Association
A representative reviewed the background of PAG and introduced a
representative from SVI.
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FISS Crossover Issue - Theresa Milligan
reported that in researching issues related to crossover claims it was
found that the FISS only crosses the claims to one supplemental
insurer based on the first eligibility record it hits. The maintainer
of FISS is addressing this issue. However, the fix is not scheduled
for release until July. The staff at the Arkansas Data Center has
developed a local fix. However, ABCBS has to receive permission from
CMS to implement it.
- 2003 Physician Fee Schedule - New HCPCS codes for 2003 will
not be payable until 03-01-03. CMS is asking providers not to file
claims with the new codes until after 03-01-03. There is a link to the
Federal Register, which contains the codes on the AHA Newsletter.
Additionally this information is on the AR Medicare web-site.
- Audit and Reimbursement – Amanda Crosby noted that letters
have been sent to hospitals regarding the public use files being
available. This information will also be on the web-site. Providers
have until 02-10-03 to get with Medicare as to any problems - must be
received by 02-10 - not postmarked.
Hospital Outliers - CMS has started a project regarding hospital
outliers. The FIs are doing analysis of the outliers. For providers
meeting certain thresholds, a special audit is required. However, in
AR there are no providers, which meet the thresholds. There are
several which are on the borderline and we will keep an eye on them
and possibly do further analysis. It is a case of charges greatly
increasing over the past several years. The information is on CRs 2508
and 2500, which are on the CMS web-site.
If further review of the claims is needed, then MR
will also be involved in reviewing the records. There were significant
changes in the CR from the draft to the final - the thresholds were
changed and resulted in AR not having any providers involved.
The wage index information is not available to
ABCBS at this time. The public use information is available on the web
and must be reviewed by 02-10-03.
AHA will also put out information about the
availability of the public use information. A representative from CMS
contacted a representative at Arkansas Hospital Association about a
hospital, which had not responded to a questionnaire about the area
wage index information for their facility and resulted in the
information being excluded from the mix. Amanda Crosby will work with
a representative from Arkansas Hospital Association on this particular
provider.
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2003 Update of the Hospital OPPS
Linda Lewis distributed a PM about the 2003 update of the Hospital
OPPS. She highlighted several key areas:
- Observation Beds - G0244 is a code about which a lot of
providers have questions. This PM clarifies several of the issues.
MR is reviewing observation bed claims. The PM explains conditions
for additional payments.
- Summary of billing and payment rules for deceased benes
- New G codes - there are a lot of issues and problems with
billers understanding the status of these codes
- Modifiers and Pass-thru devices - new codes to be used in 2003
are listed
- HCPCS replacement codes for retiring pass-thrus.
- Summary of pass-thru drugs - there are several issues answered
in this PM which have been raised in the past. Specifically, how are
drugs that are shared among several patients to be billed and how to
handle when there is drug left after the course of treatment.
Paul Cunningham questioned drug billing for
transplant patients after the initial dose of immunosuppressive
therapy. He had received information from CMS that the facilities must
obtain a DMERC ID in order to bill for the subsequent doses of the
drugs.
- General Part A Issues
- Linda Lewis made available a handout she had prepared to explain
the billing procedures for coding outliers.
- A representative of Arkansas Hospital Association questioned who
is responsible for paying for beneficiaries who are in custody of
state and local authorities. Linda Lewis will look up the recent
information on this issue and provide it for them at a later date. A
representative of the Arkansas Hospital Association noted, that they
would include the clarification in the AHA Notebook.
- Forrest Wolfe distributed the Top 25 Reasons for Calls. He asked
once again that providers use the Remote for claim status. It does
appear that the number of calls for status is decreasing. Kelly
Vaughan noted that there are more providers requesting access to the
Remote in order to use it for that purpose. There may be some
confusion in the providers about how many IDs they can have and the
number of terminals in use. Both can be increased. Some providers
limit their staff to a certain amount of time to use the remote and
are confused about paying for long distance. Kelly clarified that
once the provider is connected, the remote disconnects and calls the
provider back. Thus, the costs are on the Remote, not the provider.
- Medicare Secondary Payer (MSP)
Kay Werner had available a fact sheet about the COBC (Coordination
of Benefits Contractor) and how to get in touch with them. Kay
explained the purpose of the COBC. The COBC (Group Health, Inc. of New
York) is the contractor who is responsible for all COB Medicare claims
development and determination of liability. They also handle general
inquiries and provide assistance to the providers, attorneys, and
beneficiaries.
There have been some issues to develop since the
incorporation of this change. The COBC was not initially staffed to
handle the workload volume. They are doing much better now.
CR 2050 is a draft which has to do with multiple
(three or more) payers - e.g., a working aged has coverage through
employer and then they have a car accident - the group and auto
liability must pay first, then Medicare will pay third. Changes to
both the Part A and Part B standard processing systems will be
required prior to the implementation of this change, which is
scheduled to be effective July 2003. These changes will eliminate the
manual intervention and processing delays currently required.
Two issues that Kay wanted to discuss in particular
concerned:
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Phone calls - providers are having trouble
getting through to MSP Service Reps using the MSP toll-free line.
Training of the Medicare Part B services staff on some general MSP
issues has been conducted and effective 12-01, all of the MSP Part B
calls were diverted away from the MSP Toll-free line. The diversion
of approximately 500 Part B calls in December allowed a larger
window of time to respond to Part A inquiries. We are hopeful that
this process improvement will continue to result in improved
customer service for our Part A providers
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Backlog of claims in MSP suspense. MSP staff is
working to get the backlog down. Extensive training was held with
our front-end staff in December to better screen and enter the data
on the front end. Our MSP staff is also working overtime now and
will continue until the backlog is under control. We are also
working toward imaging claims so that they will be available on-line
without having to pull the hardcopy. This will speed up our process
and allow staff in our other states to help with working the MSP
suspense. We are projecting the imaging to begin in February.
A representative of Arkansas Hospital Association
asked about the size of the backlog. Kay noted that MSP Part A
suspense is about 6.9% of the aged volume - about 1857 claims as of
this week. A representative of St. Vincent North Rehab Hospital asked
when the backlog would be under control. Kay noted it is anticipated
that the backlog will be under control within the next two months. The
suspense was climbing until November, however, with the overtime and
training, we are seeing a decrease. A representative of St. Vincent
North Rehab Hospital noted that since the Rehab fix went in, their
problems have subsided. They did not think that the problems they had
experience were MSP.
Bobbye Garner noted that the COBC could be a small
part of the issue now as far as awaiting feedback on the development.
Initially, the COBC was a major issue.
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Benefits Integrity
Theresa Milligan reported for Barbara McDanel that the BI contract
has been awarded to Advanced Med located in Nashville, TN. They will
assume the BI workload for Arkansas Medicare Part A effective March
15, 2003. Staff from Advanced Med will attempt to attend one of the
future Hospital PAGs to go over their strategies and goals. ABCBS will
still have a minor role in screening calls from the service lines for
referral.
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Medical Review
Charlotte Garlington reported on the PROBE reviews. Automated
Development Request (ADR) letters are sent out certified mail to the
Administrator requesting information within 30 days. ABCBS has been
lenient and was allowing several extra weeks to receive the
information. One provider waited six months to submit the requested
information. We did some education and individual contacts and got
this time reduced back down. However, we are seeing an increase in the
timeline for getting the information sent back in. Provider management
needs to be sure that the staff in the facilities is aware of the
timelines and the necessity for getting the information in timely.
These requests can be copy intensive. However, we are anticipating CMS
coming out with instructions which state that we must stick with the
30-day timeline for obtaining the records. If the records are not
submitted timely, then the FI has the option to call the provider or
review the information on hand and adjudicate the claim. If this
happens the only information MR has at this time is the UB92 and
usually a denial is the determination.
Normal ADR’s not Probes
A representative of St. Vincent's Infirmary Medical
Center (SVI) asked where the records were being sent. SVI now sends
theirs directly to MMR. It was also noted that they annotate when the
records were sent and how many times they have been sent. SVI has had
significant problems with their mail vendor - that contract was
terminated and a new vendor has been obtained. A representative from
St. Vincent North Rehab noted that they have had the same problem with
sending the records numerous times. They are trying to be sure that
the records are sent directly to the 10th floor to MMR. Charlotte
noted that couriers are delivering the packages - sometimes not all
that were supposed to be delivered. A representative form Arkansas
Hospital Association noted they had put an article in the AHA Notebook
about how to send in records. This is an on-going problem. A
representative from North Arkansas Regional Medical Center noted that
it had gotten so bad that he started sending the records himself and
using certified mail. All parties agreed that the issue is getting
better.
Charlotte noted that the February newsletter would
have information about "what to send in when you get an ADR". You
should send back the original request. Some people X out information
or use a highlighter which makes it impossible to read when we get a
copy.
Charlotte reported on another issue - the FIs are
not to request an ABN when we get a condition code 20 with an
occurrence code 32 - demand bill. This leaves a problem - if Medicare
gets the bill without a modifier to signify which line is to have the
waiver of liability ABN applied, then Medicare must deny the full
claim because we don't know which line is to be reviewed. The provider
can send in the ABN with the claim, but CMS wants to push providers to
use the modifiers correctly. In order to get the claim paid once it is
denied the provider will have to request an appeal.
Charlotte stressed that the December Newsletter
(page 18) asked for a contact for MR issues. She noted that we have
only received information from 10% of the providers. The person should
be someone who deals with educational issues, compliance, etc.
Charlotte needs the contact to be someone who can go to the various
departments within the provider and get the education done and the
changes implemented. She usually asks for the compliance person when
she has not been provided with a specific person. A representative
from Arkansas Hospital Association will include an article in the AHA
Notebook.
Another issue involves some of the providers
certified for diabetic education training do not understand the policy
and documentation requirements for standards 17, 18, and 19. Charlotte
is working with some of the providers based on analysis from the Local
Provider Education and Training (LPET) program.
Charlotte also noted that Medicare is receiving a
lot of records, which have not been requested. We may ask for a MRI
report and end up getting copies of the Medicare card, notes, etc. We
are not allowed to discard these records. This is a problem for the
providers copying all the records and us imaging them.
A problem came up yesterday where a provider called
and noted that they had gotten 90 development letters on claims which
had already been paid, were already developed, etc. We are checking
out this issue to determine what is happening. It appears that the
development letters are being recycled back out. Linda Lewis is
working with the Claims Analyst to determine what the problem is.
Forrest Wolfe noted that the Data Center needs to be involved so that
they can get into the loop and track it down.
Note: Following the PAG meeting, further
research of the above problem revealed that this was actually an
isolated issue involving only one provider. The provider had contacted
the Medicare Part A service area with a list of claims they requested
be released. This action resulted in the claims being re-cycled
through the Part A FISS system with development letters regenerating.
Hearings and Appeals
Theresa Milligan reported that there are no
apparent increases in workload or unusual problems in the Part A
appeals area at this time.
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EDI and HIPAA
Kelly Vaughan reported on the HIPAA testing. We
currently have 52 people testing which includes A, B, regular
business, vendors, clearinghouses, etc. Of the 52, 29 have passed. Of
the 29, SSI, which is Part A, has passed the 837-I claims for 4010
X12. By the end of January, the version will probably be 4010 X12A1.
We will not require anyone who has passed the 4010 X12 to retest, but
we will encourage retesting. April 23 is he deadline for the HIPAA
testing to begin. We are encouraging the providers to get with their
vendors to push them to start testing. People are confused about the
testing and should stay on their vendors.
Another issue that has surfaced involves InfoTech
Global Inc. There are 18 facilities, which have received a federal
grant for HIPAA compliancy. The facilities are being asked by their
vendor to pay for the information that ITG is requesting. If you know
any facilities (under 50 beds) that are involved with this group,
Kelly will work with them.
A representative of St. Bernard's Hospital noted
that they use SSI's software and asked whether the hospital will have
to test? Kelly replied that they do not. SSI's software has been
cleared for both the uses of the software and as a clearinghouse. Ryan
will have to sign a Trading Partner Agreement with ABCBS since they
are direct submission.
Once a provider is cleared for production, the
provider must notify ABCBS as to the date they want to go productional
on the HIPAA version - no going back once you go to HIPAA.
Coordination of the going live date is critical. All testing must be
completed and passed before you can go live.
Kelly advised that ABCBS have 10 people who are
available to do the testing review. So, with the number of providers
to be tested (approximately 12,000), it is crucial that the testing
get started right away. EDI has 30 days to review a test.
A representative of Arkansas Hospital Association
asked how many hospitals do not use a clearinghouse or vendor. Kelly
replied that HAT has several of the A facilities and they are in the
process of testing. The AR hospitals all use a vendor or
clearinghouse. Thus, the facilities will not have to test separately.
It is up to the vendors and clearinghouses to let ABCBS know which
providers they represent when testing.
SVI noted that they use NDC. Kelly stated that NDC
has started testing on UB but there are still some issues.
Kelly also noted that there is separate testing for
Medicare and Regular Business; therefore, two files must be tested.
If a provider has not filed for an extension, they
will have to contact CMS directly since the form is no longer on the
web. The way the Law is written now, if you are not HIPAA compliant by
10-01-03, you can be fined and your claims cannot be filed with
Medicare since they must be electronic.
Kelly stated that Medicare is hoping to have the
free HIPAA compliant software available by April.
There are no other deadlines for other transactions
at this time.
The meeting adjourned at 12:20 p.m. The next meeting
will be on April 16.
Note: Two items did not get announced during the
PAG:
- Bobbye Garner will be retiring from ABCBS on April 4, 2003. This
was her last PAG meeting.
- The Public Programs area at ABCBS is being reorganized. At this
time, Charlie Clem is over the systems and financial areas. Reggie
Favors is moving back into Medicare over the operational areas. Reggie
and/or Charlie will attend the PAG meeting in the future.
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